Comments on: It was revolutionary!

By: Miguk

Miguk — Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:39:11 +0000

Yes, I am amazed that they did and still give so much to the nation which fails to fully recognize their contributions.

I am also proud to be an American. But we can't be blind to the fault either.

By: Bob

Bob — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:06:02 +0000

Sure, Mike. I don't have a contact form on this site, but all of my others do, just click "Contact" on any of my websites and send it along.

I didn't realize that I had no contact link on this site, but I will be adding it.

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:04:05 +0000

May I write you a little letter privately?

By: Bob

Bob — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:20:16 +0000

Hi Mike – As far as I know, that channel is not available here in the Philippines where I live.

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:48:09 +0000

Does anyone here get the Military History Channel?

Awesome programming last Sunday, about the mistreatment of black soldiers and sailors during WW2. The aftermath of ending slavery so late. These guys are heroes, and they amazingly harbor no ill will. Wise men these guys certainly are.

It's always so difficult to say what should or should not have happened after an event has occurred. One small change in history and everything changes. If you watch Star Trek at all, you know about this!

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:25:40 +0000

You are totally correct there Miguk, but like I said about Rome…

In hindsight, I think we may still not be able to say whether expediting the Constitution was worth the price of keeping slavery.

If the Founding Fathers had done away with slavery at that time, would they or could they have passed the Constitution?

What would this country be if we had abolished slavery at the time, but not passed the Constitution?

I just thank my lucky stars I am an American, here, now, forever.

I love the Philippines for different reasons, and my wife, like many of Bob's readers, is a Filipina. But I will always be an American, proud of it, warts and all…

Thank you Bob and Miguk for great conversation, as always!

By: Miguk

Miguk — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:32:47 +0000

Oh you have misread me also. They brought forth an idea that has stood the test of time and bequeathed us a system that we can be proud of and is the envy of the world. I just noted that they did dodge the issue — knowingly so — just for the expedient of passing the Constitution. And the ironic part is then (as now) it was recognized as an immoral as well as an inefficient economic model but they failed to show the courage of their convictions. All men are created equal only applied to white men at that time I guess.

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:24:21 +0000

No, not you Bob!

We are cool.

I think Miguk sees things a little less rosey than I do I guess. I think that for all our flaws, in 1776 or 2010, we are a pretty great place!

Considering how effective Europe, Asia, and Africa have been at conflict resolution and human rights, America pales in comparison!

By: Bob

Bob — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:09:22 +0000

Hi Mike – If you felt that by my comment I "demonized" the founding fathers, then you must have misinterpreted me, because that was not my intention at all.

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:05:24 +0000

Like I said, they were men of their times….

Slavery, as terrible as it is and was, was part of life in almost every country/region on Earth at the time…Let's not demonize the Founding Fathers any more than anyone else for something that almost everyone was doing…

Slavery still exists in this world..And in America, it's known by another name: Pimping.

Yes, the Founding Fathers were flawed, yes, they did some things that are now considered very politically incorrect, yes, they neglected to do other things, but let's not discount their great achievements!

They set the ball rolling…Rome, and America, were not built in a day…